Comments on: An Argument Against the Network? http://blog.9rules.com/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/ Everything that happens at 9rules Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:56:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: rich http://blog.9rules.com/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/comment-page-1/#comment-517 rich Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:01:37 +0000 http://9rules.com/blog/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/#comment-517 to my mind, you're a newspaper. an editor selects the best of what is available to them and publish's or promotes it. that's it. personally i like it. to my mind, you’re a newspaper.

an editor selects the best of what is available to them and publish’s or promotes it.

that’s it.

personally i like it.

]]> By: egal http://blog.9rules.com/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/comment-page-1/#comment-511 egal Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:42:08 +0000 http://9rules.com/blog/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/#comment-511 Watch the evil empire rise: Revenge of the Scrivs. Watch the evil empire rise:
Revenge of the Scrivs.

]]> By: Matthew Pennell http://blog.9rules.com/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/comment-page-1/#comment-510 Matthew Pennell Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:20:38 +0000 http://9rules.com/blog/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/#comment-510 James - which companies would you cite as examples of lovely, fluffy companies that no right-thinking person could possibly find anything wrong with? I'm just curious. James – which companies would you cite as examples of lovely, fluffy companies that no right-thinking person could possibly find anything wrong with?

I’m just curious.

]]> By: Britt http://blog.9rules.com/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/comment-page-1/#comment-509 Britt Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:45:53 +0000 http://9rules.com/blog/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/#comment-509 I couldn't find any mention of "Do no evil" in a 9rules mission statement, so I suppose you might be evil. Evil is sometimes necessary to show the good. If the network itself is evil, that does not necessarily mean the sites within the network are evil. 9rules: An evil network of good sites. If you like that tagline, please send me $100, which is the equivalent of a half hour of Scrivs time. I couldn’t find any mention of “Do no evil” in a 9rules mission statement, so I suppose you might be evil. Evil is sometimes necessary to show the good. If the network itself is evil, that does not necessarily mean the sites within the network are evil.

9rules: An evil network of good sites.

If you like that tagline, please send me $100, which is the equivalent of a half hour of Scrivs time.

]]> By: James Archer http://blog.9rules.com/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/comment-page-1/#comment-508 James Archer Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:34:50 +0000 http://9rules.com/blog/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/#comment-508 Matthew: "We all know that you can't get rich by 'doing the right thing' -- it just remains to be seen at which point 9rules succumbs to this truism." Matthew, there are a lot of companies making a boatload of money by doing the right thing who would disagree with you. Matthew: “We all know that you can’t get rich by ‘doing the right thing’ — it just remains to be seen at which point 9rules succumbs to this truism.”

Matthew, there are a lot of companies making a boatload of money by doing the right thing who would disagree with you.

]]> By: Martin http://blog.9rules.com/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/comment-page-1/#comment-507 Martin Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:21:55 +0000 http://9rules.com/blog/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/#comment-507 Regardless of whether you're evil or not, I was disappointed visiting again to look at the pretty blog design, and instead finding stuff squashed into the 9 Rules Corporate Template. :-( The colours (sorry, colors) were so damn awesome! Regardless of whether you’re evil or not, I was disappointed visiting again to look at the pretty blog design, and instead finding stuff squashed into the 9 Rules Corporate Template.

:-( The colours (sorry, colors) were so damn awesome!

]]> By: Matthew Pennell http://blog.9rules.com/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/comment-page-1/#comment-506 Matthew Pennell Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:15:46 +0000 http://9rules.com/blog/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/#comment-506 Damn, sorry Mike - I just assumed it was Paul who had written this. :o Anyway, I also meant to say that I think Mark's comment is spot-on - there are already several ways to highlight great content. Del.icio.us, Bloglines, Technorati - they all spotlight the most popular topics and links, without creaming a percentage of your Adsense income for the privilege. Damn, sorry Mike – I just assumed it was Paul who had written this. :o

Anyway, I also meant to say that I think Mark’s comment is spot-on – there are already several ways to highlight great content. Del.icio.us, Bloglines, Technorati – they all spotlight the most popular topics and links, without creaming a percentage of your Adsense income for the privilege.

]]> By: Matthew Pennell http://blog.9rules.com/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/comment-page-1/#comment-505 Matthew Pennell Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:13:22 +0000 http://9rules.com/blog/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/#comment-505 That was quick work, Scrivs! I'll let you know if my traffic doubles... ;) I'd just like to clarify one point though - I am not "very much anti-9rules" (and especially not setting myself against what you are trying to accomplish, at least as it was described by Mike in his comments on my article); I am simply questioning the value and ultimate goal of a "members only" club, run by a company which has to make money. We all know that you can't get rich by "doing the right thing" - it just remains to be seen at which point 9rules succumbs to this truism. That was quick work, Scrivs! I’ll let you know if my traffic doubles… ;)

I’d just like to clarify one point though – I am not “very much anti-9rules” (and especially not setting myself against what you are trying to accomplish, at least as it was described by Mike in his comments on my article); I am simply questioning the value and ultimate goal of a “members only” club, run by a company which has to make money. We all know that you can’t get rich by “doing the right thing” – it just remains to be seen at which point 9rules succumbs to this truism.

]]> By: Mark http://blog.9rules.com/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/comment-page-1/#comment-504 Mark Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:06:51 +0000 http://9rules.com/blog/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/#comment-504 I don't think ya'll are "evil", but I do question your business model thus far. From the comments in the article you reference, there are mentions of 9 Rules being a social network. That's cool and all, but organized social networks are a dying breed according to this <a href="http://www.cnet.com/4520-6033_1-6240543-1.html?tag=cnetfd.li" rel="nofollow">CNET article</a>. Blogs, by their very nature, are a "naturally occuring" social network that just happens. Is trying to come into that "natural" environment and launching a "forced" (not sure that's the best word, but lets just call it that for argument's sake) network really something you think will stick and put food on your tables for the long run? Mike mentions (again, in the Watchmakerproject post)that his vision for the network is to make it really easy to find good information on spelunking in South America or articles on gardening for his mom. Isn't this exactly what del.icio.us really excels at? In fact, couldn't you say that del.icio.us is in itself a network? Only difference (benefit?) is that no one is obligated to put a del.icio.us logo on their site, and if they do have some type of advertising program, they don't have to pay any kind of percentage to the network host. Not trying to dog your thing here. I just don't see how this whole blog networking movement (among the many who are trying it) will work out for the long term and I don't see how setting up a network within a network you'll be able to escape the exclusivity tag. I don’t think ya’ll are “evil”, but I do question your business model thus far.

From the comments in the article you reference, there are mentions of 9 Rules being a social network. That’s cool and all, but organized social networks are a dying breed according to this CNET article.

Blogs, by their very nature, are a “naturally occuring” social network that just happens. Is trying to come into that “natural” environment and launching a “forced” (not sure that’s the best word, but lets just call it that for argument’s sake) network really something you think will stick and put food on your tables for the long run?

Mike mentions (again, in the Watchmakerproject post)that his vision for the network is to make it really easy to find good information on spelunking in South America or articles on gardening for his mom. Isn’t this exactly what del.icio.us really excels at?

In fact, couldn’t you say that del.icio.us is in itself a network? Only difference (benefit?) is that no one is obligated to put a del.icio.us logo on their site, and if they do have some type of advertising program, they don’t have to pay any kind of percentage to the network host.

Not trying to dog your thing here. I just don’t see how this whole blog networking movement (among the many who are trying it) will work out for the long term and I don’t see how setting up a network within a network you’ll be able to escape the exclusivity tag.

]]> By: Christopher http://blog.9rules.com/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/comment-page-1/#comment-503 Christopher Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:42:15 +0000 http://9rules.com/blog/2005/06/an-argument-against-the-network/#comment-503 Its great to hear you take the feedback in the form that you are currently taking it in. The only thing worse then some negative feedback is a response to the negative feedback. In no way, shape or form that post a bad thing, but its an eye opener. I disagree with him. Private communities serving a good purpose is what makes the internet a more social life-like place. In any case, its always up to you to either read or exit. Its great to hear you take the feedback in the form that you are currently taking it in. The only thing worse then some negative feedback is a response to the negative feedback. In no way, shape or form that post a bad thing, but its an eye opener. I disagree with him. Private communities serving a good purpose is what makes the internet a more social life-like place. In any case, its always up to you to either read or exit.

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